It’s about love, people, it’s about love.

OK, so this isn’t becoming a political blog (I promise!) but politics have been taking up a great deal of my energy and attention these days. While last Tuesday’s election of Obama was thrilling, it was also incredibly disheartening that on a night when we as a country finally managed to rise past many of our prejudices that the people of my usually-great state (aided unfortunately by a great deal of out-of-state money) passed a law enforcing prejudice. This is one of the best viewpoints I’ve seen about the tragedy that was the passing of Prop 8:

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2 thoughts on “It’s about love, people, it’s about love.

  1. Hi Elizabeth,

    I’ve been reading your blog for a little while now and thought I’d leave some thoughts about why I voted for prop 8, in case you haven’t spoken to someone who views things differently as you do.

    I watched Olbermann’s comments yesterday and understand how many see this issue as “just being about love”. I have 2 gay uncles who I absolutely love and respect and have had very close relationships with them since I was a child. I feel very strongly in their right to love whomever they choose and to live accordingly. I don’t believe Prop 8 is taking that right away from them.

    Actually, California affords domestic partnerships all of the same rights and responsibilities as marriages under state law (Cal. Fam. Code §297.5). I fully support this. (Any compassionate and good person should want same-sex couples to have these rights)!

    So why is the title “marriage” such a big deal and why is there a fight over it? Well, government has gotten its tentacles all over marriage- in essence it has dragged religion into the public realm. I fear many have misunderstood the cry for “separation of church and state”. That phrase is nowhere to be found in any of our Founding documents. The concept came from the personal writings of Thomas Jefferson, in an 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, a group that constituted a religious minority in Connecticut. While churches are not allowed to endorse candidates, they have every right to address moral issues and to encourage members to support such causes.

    The 1st amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances”.

    So what happens to religious institutions who preach that marriage is between a man and woman or that homosexuality is immoral? And what about churches who won’t allow same-sex marriage ceremonies on their private property? A doctor in San Diego refused to artificially inseminate a lesbian, saying it went against his religious beliefs. (He offered to transfer her to an alternate doctor who would perform the procedure and he was even wiling to pay the additional fees). The patient sued and courts ruled in her favor. What about this doctor’s rights? Or the NM photographer who was sued because she morally was opposed to photographing a same-sex civil union ceremony? In all cases (and many similar cases) courts have ruled that discrimination laws trump 1st amendment rights. Catholic charities in Mass. were forced to close down their adoption services because they would only place children with a father and mother. It is pretty obvious to me (per protests/ bigotry towards certain religions since the 4th) that there is an agenda to take these 1st amendment rights from us.

    Second, I feel marriage is not just about 2 consenting adults loving each other. David Blankenhorn, a liberal democrat, eloquently writes about this in an opinion article in the L.A Times (if you want to read it). Here’s a little tidbit: “Marriage (and only marriage) unites the three core dimensions of parenthood — biological, social and legal — into one pro-child form: the married couple. Marriage says to a child: The man and the woman whose sexual union made you will also be there to love and raise you. Marriage says to society as a whole: For every child born, there is a recognized mother and a father, accountable to the child and to each other”…”Every child being raised by gay or lesbian couples will be denied his birthright to both parents who made him. Every single one. Moreover, losing that right will not be a consequence of something that at least most of us view as tragic, such as a marriage that didn’t last, or an unexpected pregnancy where the father-to-be has no intention of sticking around. On the contrary, in the case of same-sex marriage and the children of those unions, it will be explained to everyone, including the children, that something wonderful has happened!”

    Last, Mass. education codes & parental opt out rights are near identical to California’s. You can read cases “Parker vs Hurley” or “Parker vs. Lexington” for a better understanding of court rulings, but essentially schools can read books such as “King and King” to kindergartners and other (in my opinion) age inappropriate material without parental notification or choice to opt out.

    I’ve researched these issues a lot; read court cases and really tried to understand the implications of same-sex marriage. Some of the most incredible people I have met are gay and I genuinely care about them and their rights. I am still firm in my beliefs and equally respect your right to disagree.

  2. “Marriage says to a child: The man and the woman whose sexual union made you will also be there to love and raise you.”
    IT ALWAYS SAYS THAT? Really. If that quote was true for every single marriage that made a child, then wouldn’t this world be such a peachy happy place to live in? I teach children and I would love for that commenter to come and see how many marriages between a MAN and a WOMAN that make children that supposedly will show the children how much they love them and are there to raise them ACTUALLY end in screaming, arguing, physical abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, etc…it’s so insane to me that the same people who actually have the rights to get married and have children are the ones screwing it all up and messing up today’s children…(no I’m not saying everyone–but look how many out there are screwed up)people who go out and have to work their asses off to get a child—-seems to me that they would cherish that child so much. People who are married and might HAPPEN to have a child—and decide to keep it because that’s all they can do–then they can’t afford to feed the child or care for it…HEY that’s completely OK because they are a man and woman and are married…the kid knows it’s loved because it was made in a marriage. PLEASE.

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